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Note N1242
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no IGI
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Note N1243
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no IGI
AnnGu
LORING, WILLIAM - 5 Oct 1683 - 5 Feb 1683 - Wife Alice to sell 300 a at St Mary's in Somerset, MD, proceeds to be divided by William Loring, Elizabeth Loring and wife Alice. To son William 200 a purchased of Benjamin Eyres. To dau Elizabeth. Wife Alice & Nicholas Millechop & George West excrs. Son to be at age 18, dau at 17 - Witt: John Stratton, Daniel Harwood, Sarah Harwood., p364.
Notes: This could be a shot in the dark, but considering that George West is one of the executors of this will, the Alice listed as William Loring's wife could be George's daughter Alice West. George died in 1702 and by that time Alice's name was Williams. She could have remarried. [her dob therefore c1663]
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no evidence that John son of John and Elizabeth/Abigail is the same as John father of Solomon, John, Isaac etc except that descendants of John include Y-DNA Group 1 matches
no evidence that he is son of John and Sarah Haskell
from http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~kmparker/gen/Surname%20Reports/westd.htm#w2
On 2 August 1768 John West sold property to his son Isaac's father-in-law, Peter Anderson, and that is the latest record I know of placing him in Orange County. source: Orange County, North Carolina, Minutes of Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions, Part I, Folio 21, p. 42
pos additional children
iv. Unnamed female (?1734-). She married Mr. (James?) Collins.
v. Unnamed female (1738-). She married a Mr. Cole.
no evidence for this child except Ann Gu note
Posted 14 Mar 2008 by AnnGu3
"September 7th, 1709."
...Petition of Abigail West being this day read and discoursed upon the petition setting forth &c, Justice Walker exhibits an Order of Court under ye Clarks hand, in Sept. 1708 Orphans Court for five pound for funeral charges of TABITHA WEST daughter of JOHN WEST decd to be paid out of the estate of the said TABITHA. ABIGAIL WEST by Edward Parker prays ye Courts Opinion whether or not the two Children mentioned in ye petition were not next heires at Law to ye sd TABITHA - the Court refuses their opinion, & puts ABIGAIL WEST to prove it. Continued to ye next Court."
[[[[Notes: Here we have documentation indicating that JOHN WEST of DE & his wife Elizabeth have died prior to Sept. 1709 placing their deaths in the exact timeframe to match the events surrounding the executorships of George & Thomas Wests wills. The "2 children" mentioned refer to the 2 children of Abigail (Eyres) West: Abigail Jr & John Eyres.]]]]
Wests of DelMarVa AnnGu
18 Dec 1751 Granville County, North Carolina Survey of 550 acres in Granville Co (created in 1746. part later Orange in 1752.) on both sides of Stony Creek made to John West, Sr. with Nathan Jackson and John Collins as chain carriers.
Court Records: Appointment as Constable - Orange County Court Minutes 1752-1761 Book 1
6 March 1753 • Orange, North Carolina John West Senr appointed Constable in room of James Owen. Ordered that he appear before a justice for the county in 10 days post notice & qualify agreeable to law.
Court Records: Registration of Mark - Orange County Court Minutes 1752-1761 Book 1
7 March 1753 • Orange, North Carolina On motion of JOHN WEST SENR it is ordered that he have his mark recorded to wit: a hole & underkeel in each ear. Granted brand. I.W. shoulder & buttock.
Neighbor 20 March 1753 Stony Creek, Orange, North Carolina, USA
In a warrant for 300 acres on Stony Creek for William Wills, reference is made to adjoining property of John West Sr.
Court Records - Orange County Court Minutes 1752-1761 Book 1
March 1753 • Orange, North Carolina March 1753-June 1753: Ordered that the sheriff summon John Williams, John McGee & John West, constables, to attend the next court.
Court Records - Orange County Court Minutes 1752-1761 Book 1
Oct 1753 • Orange, North Carolina Ordered that Robert Brashear to be appointed overseer of road in room of John West Senr under the inspection of John Pittman.
Property (Survey) - Records of the Moravians in North Carolina - presumed to be land bought for the Moravians
1753 • Granville, North Carolina 2:534, John West Sr, a survey of 400 acres on Stoney Creek of Haw River, Granville Co. William Churchton, surveyor, Nathan Jackson and John Collins chain bearers.
Court Records - Orange County Court Minutes 1752-1761 Book 1
Oct 1753 • Orange, North Carolina Ordered that Robert Brashear to be appointed overseer of road in room of John West Senr under the inspection of John Pittman.
Property (Land Grant)
17 June 1754 • Granville, North Carolina North Carolina Land Grants 14:104--grant # 2837 by Lord Granville to John West Sr., 550 acres in Granville Co. on both sides of Stony Creek waters of Haw River - surveyed 18 Dec 1751 with Nathan Jackson and John Collins as chain carriers.
Court Records: Petition for License
October 1754 • Orange, North Carolina WEST License: Read the petition of JOHN WEST praying for a license to keep and ORDINARY at his dwelling house. The same granted and ordered that the clerk take bond as agreeable to law
Property (Sale)
21 July 1755 • Orange, North Carolina John West Senr to Hezekiah Collins, 10 pounds, on S. Side of Stoney Creek... whereon Hezekiah Collins now lives.
Property (Sale) - Orange County Records Volume II
21 July 1755 • Orange, North Carolina John West Senr of Orange, planter, to Alexander West, of same, planter, 10 pounds, 100 acres on N side of Stoney Creek, part of a tract of 550 a belonging to said John West...to include the plantation whereon said Alexander West now lives.
Property (Sale) - Orange County Records Volume II
21 July 1755 • Orange, North Carolina John West Senr of Orange to Solomon West of same, planter, 10 pounds, 100 acres, on N side of Toms Creek...part of tract of 500 a belonging to John West Senr, deed from Rt Honorable John Lord Calvert. Wit: Stephen Maret, Alexander West. Proved Dec 1755
Court Records - Orange County Court Minutes 1752-1761 Book 1
Sep 1755 • Orange, North Carolina John West Senr inspected a road.
Posted 19 May 2014 by haploman
Orange Co., NC Deeds 1753-1793, v. 1: 2nd Tues. Dec 1755:
“A deed of sale from John West to Solomon West for 550 Acres of Land was proved in open Court by Stephen Merret and was ordered to be Registered”
“A deed of sale from West West Senr. to Alexander West for 100 Acres of land was proved in open Court by the oath of Stephen Merret on evidence thereto and was ordered to be Registered”
Posted 19 May 2014 by haploman
Orange Co., NC Deeds 1753-1793, v. 1: 2nd Tues. Dec 1756:
“A deed of sale from John Senr. to John West Junr. for 50 Acres of land was acknowledged in open Court. & was ordered to be Registered. -“
Court Records: Jury Duty - Orange County Court Minutes 1752-1761 Book 1
March 1757 • Orange, North Carolina John West Senr 'pety juror'
Property (Sale) - Orange County Court Minutes 1752-1761 Book 1
March 1757 • Orange, North Carolina A deed of sale from JOHN WEST SENR to JOHN WEST JUNR for 50 acres of land was proved in open court by the Oath of SOLOMON WEST.
Court Records: Jury Duty - Orange County Court Minutes 1752-1761 Book 1
June 1759 • Orange, North Carolina John West appointed jury member. Does not specify Senior vs Junior.
Property (Sale) - Orange County Court Minutes 1752-1761 Book 1
May 1761 • Orange, North Carolina A deed of sale from JOHN WEST to Edward Herring for 640 acres of land was proved in open court by oath of Nathaniel Jones and was ordered to be registered.
Court Abstract - Orange County Court Minutes, 1752-1766
August 1763 • Orange, North Carolina Edmond Bailey one of several men appointed to work on road going by John west Senr.
Property (Sale) - Orange County Records Volume II
2 Aug 1768 • Orange, North Carolina John West Senr to Peter Anderson, of Orange, 66 acres on W. Side of Stoney Creek.
Property
14 Oct 1774 • Tryon, North Carolina Bought land on a branch of King's Creek. This land later designated as York District, SC (Verify that it is this John)
Court Records: Lawsuit
Orange, North Carolina John Robinson vs John West Senr: Debt. Case to be sent to jury.
WEST DNA PROJECT: FAMILY GROUP #1 Ancestor of W218, W264
John seems to have lived in the Carolinas after leaving Maryland. It is probable that his children were born in the Carolinas.
Charlotte West Dade info:
John West (c1691-c1780), who married Mary Madden, may have been the father of:
Solomon West (1726-1830), who married Isabella Boyd;
John West, Jr. (born c1728);
Alexander West (c1730-p1790);
Mary West (b c1742), who married Hezekiah Collins;
Isaac West (1745-1814), who married Susanna Anderson; and
Eleanor “Nellie” West (1748-p1810), who married Alexander Barnhill.
John West and Mary Madden likely had two other daughters about whom we have no information. It is thought that one, known only as “Miss” West, married Bray Crisp.
Ann Gu analysis of Emily's 'West Family History'. Transcription of the original in black font and Ann's notes in green font.
John West was born in 1665 emigrated to America from England or Ireland.
Current internet Family Trees list John West with a DOB of 1665 or 1707. Most list his birthplace as Virginia. His DOD is listed almost exclusively as 1800 with the location being either Orange, NC or Greenville, SC.
A birthdate of 1665 would be impossible for a man who lived to 1800. Even a DOB of 1707 would be surprising for those times if John indeed lived to 1800.
At the moment, there is simply no proof as to John's DOB or DOD. There is also no proof that he was an immigrant ancestor versus being a descendant of an earlier immigrant. Emily seems to believe that her ancestors included an immigrant from England or Ireland named John West who was born around 1665. Consider the possibility that there is a missing generation, or that she simply got the dates wrong.
John, Alex, Solomon and Isaac were all sons of this John West who settled in the lower part of South Carolina there until he died. Alex West settled and died in Georgia. Solomon moved to Wayne County, Kentucky. Of the sisters one married a man by name ____ Cole, and two married the brothers by name ____Collins. Nelly West married Alex Barnhill, George West son of Solomon West moved to Saline County, Arkansas.
Emily clearly names John West as being the father of John, Alex, Solomon, Isaac and Nelly. There were 3 other sisters: two married Collins men and one married a Cole.
The fact that Emily has indicated her great-grandfather's name was John can be considered additional proof that the father of Isaac West was indeed John West and not William West. However, it provides no clues as to the identity of John's wife who is supposed to be Mary Madden.
The information indicates that the sons were all living in SC until their father died implying that John was also living in SC at the time.
John West Sr. (The Father) - No available estimated DOB/DOD. The Orange, NC records of John West Sr stretch from 1851 when the area was still part of Granville, NC to no earlier than 1768. Was John Sr still living in the 1770s-1800? His son Solomon lived to be at least 100, so it is certainly possible, but where is the documentation proving it?
John West Jr - Family Trees show DOB as abt.1728. John & brother Alexander were adults by 1753 when they served on an Orange, NC jury. There are several other records in Orange, NC dated 1755-1770 which appear to belong John Jr. A land entry between John West and Solomon West was witnessed by Isaac West in Greenville, SC in 1789 is presumed to be John Jr rather than John Sr. The same goes for the one John West household in Greenville, SC for the 1790 US Federal Census. It shows: 2M of 16+ and 6 females. Could John Jr be a bachelor living in the household of his father? Could this be a situation where John Sr was living in the household of his son? However, John Jr would certainly be old enough by 1790 to have a 16+ year old son of his own. There is no John West household for Greenville in 1800 suggesting that John Jr and family had moved on to another location or that John Jr was dead by 1800. There are, however, two land entries between a John West and others identified as his siblings dated 1801.
Solomon West - Based upon census records, Solomon's estimated DOB is <1730. The first Orange, NC records naming Solomon are dated 1755 when he bought 100 acres of land from his father, John Sr. He remained in Orange, NC through 1772 when he bought a fiddle at the estate sale of Samuel King. He had moved close to King's Mountain by 1784 when the Orange County Court recalled him to be deposed for a case. By 1787, land records show that Solomon and his brothers, along with brother-in-law Hezakiah Collins were living in Greenville, SC. Solomon West & family are enumerated in the 1790 census for Greenville, SC. In 1799, his son Isaac West moved to Wayne County, KY. Solomon also moved there, but was still enumerated in Greenville, SC in 1800. Documentation in the county records and on census records shows that Solomon lived to be 100. Solomon died 1 Dec 1830 just after the 1830 census listed him in the 100+ category.
Alex West - There are few Orange, NC records for Alexander West. He shows up on a jury in 1753 along with brother John Jr.. He bought land from his brother John and was listed on a tax record for 1755. In 1764, he was assigned to lay out a road. Various family files indicate that he died in Georgia about 1774, but the same files also indicate that his birthplace was Accomack, Virginia without offering any sort of proof either way. They list Sarah Hawkins as his wife. Emily's transcript does indicate that "Alex West settled & lived and died in Georgia", but no dates or names of additional family are provided. There is no sign of Alexander West in Greenville, SC, so it may be that he moved directly to Georgia.
Isaac West - The best available census estimation of Isaac's DOB is "before 1755". Isaac shows up in the Orange, NC records in 1770 when he buys 300 acres of land. Two years prior to that John Sr sold some land to Peter Anderson, Isaac's future father-in-law. Isaac married Susannah Anderson at an unverified date about 1769. They were living near King's Mountain in the 96th District in 1780 when Isaac was struck down with a saber by Loyalists in front of his wife and children. This account by Isaac's daughter, Phebe (West) Green, was published in 1859. Isaac survived the attack. They were enumerated in the Greenville, SC census for 1790 and 1800. Isaac moved his family to Dickson, TN by 1804 when he purchased a license to run an Ordinary. The last Dickson, TN entry for Isaac is dated 1813. Family tradition states that Isaac West died 'while visiting his Brimbery relatives' in or near Shawneetown, Gallatin, Illinois. There seems to be some doubt among West researchers that the story is true, but proof either way seems to be lacking. A descendant of Isaac's participating in the West DNA Project is a match for 'Family Group 1'.
Nelly West - Eleanor West married Alexander Barnhill. Family trees list her approximate DOB as 1748 with a marriage to Alexander in ___ making her 32 at the time of her marriage and older than her husband. Considering that the couple had at least 8 children, it seems that the dates are probably off a bit. The couple sold land to Nelly's brother John West in Greenville, SC in 1801. Various family files show no other marriages for Alexander, so it is possible that the woman listed on the 1790 (1M 16+ and 6F) and 1800 census (1M45+, 1F26-44, 1M16-25, 4F 10-15, 2M&2F <10) is actually Nelly. That would estimate her DOB as: 1756-1774, probably at the older end of the range closer to 1756. That would make more sense based upon her husband's age, and their marriage date. Family trees list Alexander's death in 1806. The 1810 census list a "Widow Barnhill" (1F 45+(<1765), 1M&1F 10-15). There is no Eleanor Barnhill listed for 1820 as a Head of Household. It is possible that she died, remarried, or was living in the household of a relative.
Mary West - Mary West married Hezekiah Collins. Emily's account of her grandfather's siblings does not name Mary West, but it indicates that one of his sisters married a Collins. Hezekiah Collins was listed in Orange, NC Tax Records in 1755, along with the West brothers, and John West Sr. He is named in several Court & land records along with the Wests, including on in Greenville, SC indicating that they also moved to SC.
____ West (female) married ____ Collins
____ West (female) married ____ Cole
Anderson West was born 5th December 1790. Celia Tubb was born 15th February 1794.
Emily's account of the West family takes a leap to the next generation. Anderson West was the son of Isaac West Sr & Susanna Anderson. His birth and death dates have been established. A photo of his tombstone is posted on this site.
_____ Tubb emigrated from England to America married, had two sons, started back to England on business ---- was never heard from again. The names of the sons were George and William both the grandfathers of Celia Tubb. Her father and mother were cousins. John Tubb son of William and father of Celia Tubb was wounded at the Battle of Kings Mountain.
He lived near the Battle ground. His wife took a horse an searched out her wounded husband and neighbor son. Mounting first one and then the other. Carrying them a short distance, dismounting the foremost one then bringing up the rear and passing on some distance ahead until she got them both home &C.
Anderson Family
Names of the Ancestors of the West Family
Generally
Peter Anderson was born in the year 1665. he was a Swiss. Emigrated to America and settled nine miles from Philadelphia. From there he moved to Orange County, North Carolina, he lived one hundred and seventeen (117) years.
Note that Peter Anderson, father of Susan, was born in 1665, a year also attributed by Emily to John West. Also note that Peter is supposed to have lived 117 years. It seems very unlikely that both Susan's father and Isaac's father lived to be 100+. I think the dates are off significantly on John West, Sr., but again have no proof one way or the other.
Susan Anderson and Isaace West, father and mother of Anderson West was married in Orange County, North Carolina.
Katy Anderson, daughter of Peter Anderson married a man named Springer. Polly Anderson married Peter Bromby. Margaret Anderson married William Stallcutt. Sallie Anderson married ____ King.
Susan Anderson and Isaac West was married 1769. From NC they moved to Greenville District, South Carolina in 1782. And in 1801 they moved to Dickson County, Tennessee. In 1810 Susan West died and in 1814 Isaac West from home near Shawneetown on the Ohio river.
Kate West married John Barnhill. Pheba West married Isaac Green, Susan West married Lynn Walker, Mary West married Elisha Simmons who died she then married Henry Brigg, Sallie West married John Mae, Nancy West married Jerry Ward, Elizabeth West married Samuel Sparks. John West married Sallie Walker, Isaac West married Hanna Rupell. Solomon and Abner West both young men unmarried died aged 22.
Anderson West was married to Celia Tubb on the 30th of April 1812 and in 1816 moved to Alabama. In 1837 moved to Holmes County, Mississippi.
In 1842 moved back to Alabama. In 1849 cme back to Holmes County, Mississippi where most of his children lived.
Notes written on paper dated Sunday, Oct 20, 1878: From Emily Thomspon West [b.1820-1897]
Names of the Ancestors of the Wests
John West was born in 1665. Emigrated to America from England or Ireland.
John West, Jr., his oldest son, settled in the lower part of South Carolina and lived there until he died.
Alex West settled & lived and died in Georgia.
Soloman West moved to Wayne County, Kentucky.
One of Soloman daughers married a man by the name of Cole.
Two other daughers married two brothers by name Collins.
Nelly West married Alex Barnhill in Alabama.
George West, son of Soloman West, moved to Salina County, Arkansas.
Anderson West was born 5 December 1790.
Celia Tubb was born 15 of February 1794 married
Tubb emigrated from England to America married had two sons named George and William both the grandfathers of Celia tubb whose parents were own cousins.
John Tubb father of Celia Tubb was son of William Tubb was born 1755 he was wounded at the Battle of King's Mountain he lived near the Battle Ground. His wife took a horse went in search of her husband and found him woudned and one of their neighbors wounded also. She got them out from amoung the dead. Mounted and dismounted alternately and until she got them both home."
If John West, Sr was born circa 1665, he cannot have died in Greenville, SC around 1800. There is either a missing generation in there or the original date estimates are wrong. It is also possible that John actually died earlier in Orange, NC and that it was after his death in NC that the sons moved to Greenville, SC. I have found no evidence of John in SC so far.
The records of Orange County, NC all corroborate the presence of John Sr, John Jr., Alexander, Solomon, and Isaac West. It is important to note that there are no William Wests listed in the area since William is a name that pops up in random Family Trees as a potential candidate to be Isaac's father instead of John. Evidence seems to point to John, though I have found no information on his wife who is reportedly named Mary Madden.
I have gathered what information I can find on this particular West line. Through a descendant of Isaac West, they have been proven to be members of the West Surname Project's 'Family Group 1'. They could be descendants of the known immigrant ancestor, Robert West, or descendants of a related branch of Wests coming from England or Ireland at a later date.
Comments on Ann Gu by KarenParker25
Alex West: The Alex West who married Sarah Hawkins was not John's son, Alex, who moved to Georgia; it was John's grandson Alex, a son of the Solomon West who moved from Greenville Dist., SC, to Wayne County, Kentucky. Sarah was a daughter of William Eaton Hawkins, and there is a power of attorney among the Wayne County, Kentucky, records, proving this. Agreed
I wonder whether the supposition that John West, Sr.'s wife Mary was surnamed Madden was an inference from the fact that Isaac West & Susanna Anderson had a grandson named Anderson Madden West, son of Anderson West.
Relatives of the Browns of Mill Springs, Kentucky, Including the Fisher, Gaar, Gholson, Hutchison, Weaver and West Families, by James E. Brown and Margaret Brown Altendahl, published in 1992
The compilers of this family history stated that John West (born about 1707) and Mary Madden were the parents of Solomon (born about 1726) who married Isabella Boyd, Mary Boyd(?), and Martha Norton; John West (born about 1728); Alexander West (born about 1728); an unidentified female (born about 1734) who married John Collins; an unidentified female (born about 1738) who married an unidentified Cole; Mary West (born about 1742) who married Hezekiah Collins; Isaac West (born about 1745), who married Susanna Anderson, daughter of Peter and Catherine Lynam Anderson; and Eleanor “Nellie” West (born about 1748) who married Alexander Barnhill. Additionally, these compilers indicated that William and Thomas may have been two other sons.
Posted 01 Mar 2018 by EvelynSmithJones John West is my 7th great grandfather.
Dec 13 1795 George Benson (Greenville Co) to John West (same); for 50 pounds sterling sold 116 ac on Enoree R; granted Mar 6 1786 by Gov William Moultrie to George Benson (grant Book 4H p 195). (signed) George Benson; witness Robert Mason & Abner S Butlar; wit. oath by R Mason before Robert McAfee; rec Apr 21 1796; book D p. 244.
Posted 25 Mar 2018 by EvelynSmithJones
Feb 16 1801 Alexander Barnhill & wife Nelley (Greenville Dist) to John West; for $10 sold 155 ac on E side of Enoree R and on branches of the river; border: joins a conditional line. (signed) Alexander Barnhill's mark "O" and Nelley's mark "X"; witness Ephraim Elledge & Marget Bernhill [or Margaret Barnhill]; wit oath Nov 2 1804 by Ephraim Elledge before D Goodlett JQ; recorded Nov 2 1804; book G p 221.
Posted 24 Mar 2018 by EvelynSmithJones
Apr 1 1801 John West (Greenville Dist) to Stephen Phillips; for $300 sold 2 adjouining tracts: (a) 100 ac on waters of Reedy R; border: begins at Solomon West's NE corner hickory; granted (no date) to Solomon West who sold to John West; & (b)) 29 ac; granted Jul 1 1799 to John West (signed) John West's mark "X"; witness Alexander West & Lenny Goodlett; prpved May 16 1801 by Alexr West before D Goodlett JQ recorded Feb 11 1802; book F p 366.
William West III November 21 @ 2:42am
My Gedmatch number is T646202. I match your numbers at the 3cm value. My West line goes to John West who married Marry Madden but I can not link John to Frances West. What is your West line?
Geneanet Community Trees Index
Name: John West Birth Date: 1707 Birth Place: British Colonial America Death Date: 1804 Death Place: Greenville, Greenville, South Carolina Spouse: Mary Madden
Child:
Alexander West
Eleanor West
Isaac West
John West
Mary West
Soloman West
